CNLP 767 | Solving the Mental Health Emergency: Shaunti Feldhahn and James Sells on a Better Approach to Pastoral Care
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
Carey Nieuwhof
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 November 2025
⏱️ 99 minutes
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Summary
Dr. James Sells and Shaunti Feldhahn rethink mental health and loneliness. They offer practical steps on how the church can lead healing without burning out its leaders, especially pastors.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:02.9 | That was one thing that they all said, like 100% of them, which was, oh my goodness, like the weight that's off my shoulders. |
| 0:12.6 | Because our church is actually doing the things that we always had sort of hoped and had a vision for the church. |
| 0:24.9 | Yeah. had sort of hoped and had a vision for the church. Welcome to the Keri Newhoff Leadership Podcast. |
| 0:27.5 | It's Keri here. |
| 0:28.2 | I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership. |
| 0:31.6 | And I think this is, it's not going to just help you, |
| 0:33.8 | it's going to help a lot of other people. |
| 0:35.3 | Today I tackle with Shanti Feldhan and Dr. James Sells. |
| 0:41.8 | What to do about the mental health emergency? If you're a church leader, you're probably |
| 0:45.5 | overwhelmed by the rising number of people who come to you and say, can I have your time? |
| 0:49.7 | Can we just talk? And maybe you're just referring people to counselors. Well, what do you do |
| 0:53.7 | with all that? And for most church leaders, even me, you know, when I was leading a church day to day, today, it was overwhelming. And the reality is a lot of it never gets treated, right? The way times are too long, it's too hard to get on your calendar. And you took one class on counseling. Like, you're not a pro counselor. So we're going to be talking about all that and more. And there's a really cool solution. I believe in this so much that I wrote forward to their new book. I think it's just going to help. And there's a lot of free resources for pastors. So hey, before we get to today's interview, I'm going to be spending a lot of time in Nashville this fall, Nashville and Franklin. Bringing the podcast on the road, |
| 1:28.0 | doing some pivotal interviews. It's going to be a lot of fun. I would love some restaurant, |
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| 1:42.1 | Instagram. You know, I'll actually talk about this interview that a that a lot of the time, I just don't even read DMs anymore. |
| 1:48.2 | My team does a lot, but I don't. |
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| 1:55.2 | I'll also probably be sharing an awful lot about that trip in November and December. |
| 1:59.2 | So anyway, quick bio. |
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