CNLP 733 | You Are Not Your Work: Arianna Molloy's Blueprint for Overcoming Toxic Calling and Boundary Shaming
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
Carey Nieuwhof
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 5 June 2025
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Has your calling become toxic? Biola Professor Arianna Molloy discusses the identity crisis most church leaders face: identifying with their calling so much that it becomes toxic.
She also discusses burnout, how to get healthy, and the problems with boundary-shaming your team.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:03.0 | Boundary shaming is when you are being asked to do more than what you've signed up for. |
| 0:10.1 | So let's be very clear. |
| 0:11.4 | You're doing your job. |
| 0:12.3 | You're doing all the tasks that you've been asked to do. |
| 0:14.3 | Nothing is being ignored or forgotten. |
| 0:18.5 | You're doing your job. |
| 0:19.1 | But when you're asked to do more with the understanding |
| 0:23.9 | that if you don't, you're not a team player. If you don't, you might not be the person people call |
| 0:32.1 | on next time. It's when someone else puts their own capacity for work on you as if it should be what it is |
| 0:41.6 | for all people. Isn't that every church and every nonprofit, Ariana? Well, maybe. |
| 0:52.1 | Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. It's Carrie here and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership. |
| 0:59.0 | Well, can calling ever become toxic? The answer is, according to Arianna Malloy. Yes, it can be. And it's really confusing for church leaders. So if you're a church leader, stay tuned. I fell into this trap. Maybe you've |
| 1:12.7 | fallen into this trap. Really hard to say no to God, right? Well, yeah, we're going to get into |
| 1:17.8 | all of that and a whole lot more. Hey, while you're here, I got something really exciting. You know, |
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| 1:44.8 | Leadership Academy. We've created a whole new tier where you can have conversations about this. |
| 1:49.9 | Because you know what? The topics that we cover in this podcast get very personal, very deep. |
| 1:55.1 | You want to make sure you're in a troll-free environment. You want to make sure that people don't |
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