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I had a friend, really good friends say to me, he said, I feel like I find out about your

struggles by reading about them in a book or listening to one of your sermons.

What's he saying to me?

He's saying, hey, we get together for breakfast,

we sit on your front porch. You don't share those things with me, but you share them in the

stage or you put him in a book. And what I was confronted with was this question of why is it

harder for me to share it with him?

Welcome.

The Carrie Newhoff Leadership podcast.

It's Carrie here, and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

Well, like I said on the last episode, we're kind of going deep.

We're getting personal.

I don't know whether it's a season for me or what it is, but I hope this helps you. You know, if you are better

on the inside, your leadership is going to be better on the outside. Kyle Eidleman and I sit down

and have a conversation all about that. What do you do when you want to punch a hole in the wall?

Kyle talks pretty

openly about vulnerability, insecurity, and the spiritual gift of disappointing people. I think

you're going to really love this. Hey, you know what? I got an announcement for you that I'm really

excited about. We are changing how we do the show notes. So I want you to think about, you know,

a lot of young leaders listening to this show, but, you know, 10 years ago, people used to have decent conversations on the internet.

That's gone. Believe it or not, that actually did happen for a while. And one of the secret missions

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