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Welcome to the Carrie Newhawk Leadership Podcast.

It's Carrie here and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

I have been working on this interview for a while now and I'm so glad to bring it to you.

We got the one and only Kevin Kelly, the most interesting man in the world on the podcast today.

And man, I'll tell you there's so much wisdom here.

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So Kevin Kelly is here. He has had a really, really fascinating life.

He turned 70 recently, released a new book. We'll talk about that.

But we're going to talk about the usefulness of increasing your optimism.

What do you learn from time travel? This is really interesting.

It seems to have done it. And when you listen to the story, you're like, oh, yeah, that kind of is time travel.

Why the myth of progress isn't a myth. A thousand true fans, probably one of the things he's best known for and we update it.

If you want to get a start in your side hustle or you want to start an online company,

a thousand true fans is sort of the go-to classic and he updates it for 2023.

And then the power of remaining astonished.

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