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Welcome to the Carrie Newhawk Leadership Podcast.

It's Carrie here, and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership, man.

This is a fun one. I had such a great time talking to Dr. Scott Lyons, and it's one of those episodes where a lot of dots are going to connect.

This is where you're like, oh, that's why it's so difficult to manage this person, or oh, that's why this person is a real drain on my leadership.

It's going to make a lot of sense.

So I hope you enjoy it.

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So Scott Lyons is a holistic psychologist, educator, and author of the book Addicted to Drama, healing dependency on crisis and chaos in yourself and others.

It's published by Hashtag. He is a renowned body-based trauma expert, a doctor of osteopathy, and mind-body medicine expert.

So he has, I'll tell you, it's just such a real conversation, too.

Because we are going to talk about how to tell whether preaching and leadership have become addictions, how to tell whether someone is toxic, what to do with toxic people and co-workers.

And then what do you do when, you know, you get that person that always has drama in their life, there's always something, there's always like always some issue, there's always some challenge, always some problem.

Well, Scott used to be one of those people and now he helps people break free from those people and figure out how to deal with it.

So we're going to have a lot of fun on this episode, plus he was a delightful conversation.

So if you're brand new to the podcast, welcome, really glad wherever you find yourself in the gym today on a bike ride on a run.

In your kitchen, maybe doing yard work, like I often do, welcome, we're glad you're here.

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