We are going to talk about following Rick Warren, the detailed breakdown on how the

succession at Settleback happened, how to navigate the grief and the promise of transition,

and also at the end, Stacey Wood is going to join us, Andy's wife, and also teaching

pastor at Settleback to talk about women in ministry and being kicked out of a

denomination. Anyway, yeah, we're going to do all that today. So glad you joined us. Hey,

I have an opportunity for you. We have not done this really ever, but I'm doing a live

podcast recording in Atlanta on April 26th, and the first 250 people to RSVP are invited.

You can go to cnlp.live for all the details that's cnlp, carrying you off leadership podcast.live

for all the details. And today's episode is brought to you by He gets us. So what impacted

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from Glue's CSO Brad Hill for quick update. So Andy Wood did what a lot of people thought

was, and this is, these are his words, not mine, only an idiot might do. And he became

the pastor who followed Rick Warren. He breaks down the details on how the call happened

exactly what they did during the transition, which six months in, eight months in seems

to be going extremely well. And how the congregations involved echo church and then also Settleback

navigated both the grief and the promise of transition. And then Andy and I shot this

interview live in Orange County at Settleback in his office a couple months ago. And it

was great. Had a really good time. And then the incident over women in leadership and

a denomination kicking them out happened. And Andy texted me and he goes, Hey, I think

we should address that. And I said, Yeah, well, if we're going to let's have Stacy on.

So there is a second interview at the end of the first interview where Stacy and Andy

joined me together remotely. And we talked about that for about 30 minutes. So anyway,

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