The Art of Leadership Network Welcome to the Cary New Hoth Leadership Podcast.

It's Cary here and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

I've got Erwin McMannis back on the podcast and we talk about why the future belongs to

communicators, the seven frequencies of communication, the dawn of fast learning.

I found that part really interesting and I think he's right and what it means for communicators.

If you ever put a microphone on, if you are interested in persuading people,

you are going to love this episode. Plus, we dip into the backstory about Erwin

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Well, Erwin McMannis has committed his life to the study of genius and the pursuit of God.

He is an icon of class, an entrepreneur, storyteller, fashion designer, filmmaker,

and many more things. And he's also the founder of Mosaic, a church movement based in the heart

of Hollywood. Now, when he says that, he's not kidding. I interviewed Erwin, by the way,

there's a great YouTube video of this and thanks to his team for setting that up in Hollywood

at Mosaic. When he says he's in the heart of Hollywood, I'm not kidding. A blocker to a way,

what have you got? Jimmy Kimmel live, the theater, the Kodak theater where they do the Academy

Awards. I mean, it's literally a stone's throw from Mosaic. And he is reaching people that other

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