Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in your

business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 431 of the podcast.

It's Carrie here and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

I have been looking forward to this episode for a long time.

Chris Hodges is back on the podcast.

Chris leads one of the largest mega churches in the United States and we're not going to

talk about growth.

We're not going to talk about church.

We're going to talk about you.

And Chris went through a really intense period of anxiety, panic attacks last year actually

and he is talking about those.

He talks about depression, about being canceled, about all the things that are part of modern

leadership and leading in a pandemic.

And I know what a tough season this has been for leaders for so many of you, whether you

lead in a business context or a church context.

And yeah, so we're just going there today and I have been there.

And so I just want you to know we are in your corner.

And today's episode is brought to you by World Vision and they care about your soul too.

So they've got a new free video series called right side up soul care.

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