Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in your

business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 413 of the podcast.

It's Carrie here and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

I am so excited to have Francis Chan back on the podcast.

I know a lot of you know him and what we go all over the place today and really talk

about unity, also talk about racial unity and the whole anti-Asian backlash that people

have been experiencing in America, something I'm deeply concerned about, and we talk about

the future of the church and a whole lot more.

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that's G-E-N-E-R-I-S dot com forward slash Carrie well, let's talk about division, let's

talk about stopping Asian hate and why influence in the church can't come from self promotion

and so many other things with Francis Chan today.

A lot of you know Francis, he's the best selling author of letters to the church, crazy,

love for getting God, erasing hell and he and his wife Lisa are co-authors of you and

me forever marriage in the light of eternity.

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