Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in your

business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 412 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

So excited to have Annie F. Downs back on the podcast.

If you don't know Annie and there might be a few of you, maybe five of you who don't.

You're in for a treat and she's always good to talk to you and we go behind the scenes

and talk about how she actually hit the New York Times bestseller list, how to engage

an audience.

She's absolutely brilliant at it.

So we talk all kinds of shop and then why you need a hobby and I'll be talking about

that in the what I'm thinking about segment at the very end as well.

So today's episode brought to you by our partners over at World Vision.

You can sign up for their free web series with Danielle Strickland by going to worldvision.org

forward slash Carrie and by serve HQ go to serve HQ dot church to sign up for your free

14 day trial and use the code Carrie C a R E Y to get 10% off for life.

Well hey, I just want to start today by saying well done like look, look at you.

Look at you as a leader.

You have made it through almost 14 months of pandemic.

That's incredible.

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