Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 32 of the podcast my name is Carrie Newhoff and

thank you so much for spending some time together today hope this is going to help

you and maybe even your team lead like never before and if you write in any way like if you if you want to

write a book one day like you know a lot of people I know do or maybe you've written a

book or you write a blog or you write messages or frankly even if you have to write you know emails that

parents or people who visit your church actually read which is different so you can

write an email and then you can write a boring email or you can write something that people really love to read

then I think you're going to love today because I'm so excited to have Mark Batterson as my guest and Mark is a New York Times best-selling author which is

something that not a lot of people have the opportunity to see in their lifetime

and Mark has hit that mark more than once and sold literally millions of copies of his books.

If you're a reader, you probably know about Mark. He also happens to be a fantastic pastor.

He leads an incredible church. I've been there several times

and gotten to know some of his team at National Community Church in the DC area,

Washington, D.C. They are having a huge impact on that city and been going for almost 20 years.

So in the process of leading a church, he's written New York Times bestsellers.

Isn't that cool?

Mark and I were talking about what we wanted to cover in the podcast today.

And we ended up having the most fascinating conversation.

I'm probably going to have him back because I wanted to talk to him about church planning and everything

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