Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 302 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope her time together today helps you lead like never before.

Today's episode is brought to you by Pro Media Fire and Red Letter Challenge.

We also have an Ask Carry at the end.

Tony's got a question.

He wants to know if you could give yourself

a bit of advice to your 15 to 20 year old self,

what would it be?

I get asked that question a lot. Gonna give you. to your 15 to 20 year old self, what would it be?

I get asked that question a lot.

Gonna give you my most common answer,

but then one that I rarely give.

So that's right at the end of the podcast.

My guest today on this episode, our guest, is Steve Green. He's the president of Hobby Lobby. Hobby Lobby is a fascinating, fascinating story. I love stories of things that start out really small and if you know a little bit about

Hobby Lobby you know that it started in the Green Family Garage back almost 50 years ago, which is crazy.

Steve is founder David Green's son.

He became the president of Hobby Lobby in 2004,

and he has helped the family business grow to more than well next year 900 stores in almost all of the states over 37,000 employees and we talk about all that and we also I love counterintuitive stories so Steve and I talk about why their

retail chains are growing when everybody else's are declining it's fascinating fascinating. I mean, you know, so many places are just

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