Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 23 of the podcast my name is Carrie Newhoff I am so

glad to be alongside of whatever you're doing today maybe you're on your commute

out for a walk or a run or out cycling or at the gym or maybe cooking dinner or just hanging out I don't know but it's a thrill to be alongside you and I really hope this

podcast helps you lead like never before and thank you to everybody who is just so awesome to leave a review or rating in iTunes.

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Today's guest is a guy by the name of Will Mancini and Will and I are going to

drill down on a subject that I have talked to a lot of leaders about over the last few

years because almost every church leader I know is struggling with this

and it's the trend that even people who attend church are attending less often I

guess you could look at it this way fewer people are attending church and even the ones who do

attend church don't show up as often as they used to. Now you probably notice that

in your church no matter what region you're in no matter what size church you're in large or small and even if your church what know every week and now they're coming once a month or twice a month or once every four

months and that is just a universal trend and almost literally every church leader I

talked to is noticing it but nobody really knows how to respond like what do you do is that just

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