Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now

your host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 162 of the podcast my name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today

Helps you lead like never before man. I got to tell you our world just need some hope right just like absolutely need some hope the day I'm recording this is one of those days where yet another attack has happened and it's just it's crazy you know and I know this podcast is about leading like never before but you know what at the end of the day

I hope this is a forum that gives you hope

One of my little missions in life is to try to make sure that

that evil doesn't win and that the good people have a voice and a platform and I know you're good people

as a podcast listener, as as a leader as people who are trying to make a difference in the world and I'm just so glad to be in this with you. You know that it's tough I mean we've got we got social issues and we also have a lot of

personal issues and last week we heard from Carlos Whitaker a really honest conversation

about how porn almost destroyed his family and today

we're getting into similar territory not about pornography but just about you

know so much of the the leadership game is just mental.

It's what happens in your head and in your heart.

And my guest today is Jared Wilson,

and he talks about some real struggles he had

as a young adult and even in the church as a young leader.

And hey, just a note like we had last time this is kind of mature content

no there's no language or anything in it it's just like this is the heavy

stuff this is the stuff that you know if we're not careful, we'll take us out, the heart stuff.

And as you listen, like listen with your mom heart, your dad heart, and your leader heart, because

you know what, stuff like just depression and even suicidal

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