Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before.

In your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody, and welcome to episode 80 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

And today we're gonna get personal.

We're gonna talk about marriage.

That's right, your marriage and how's it going?

Really, that's a question I love to ask, you know, because people like,

how's it going?

It's going great.

It's like, how's it going though? No, really, really, like, how's it it going and usually when you ask that

second question and people open up man it's amazing to discover that hey a lot of us

have a lot in common sometimes it's not going so great my guest guest today is Dr. Kim Kimberling and he is a counselor

who is specialized in marriage. He's got a book on marriage called Seven Secrets

to an awesome marriage. He works out of Life Church, good friends with Craig Grishel, and has helped a lot of people,

particularly people in ministry, put their marriage back together again.

And, you know, we talk about this a little bit in the interview but I just

think leadership and particularly ministry makes marriage harder and every once in

a while I guessed on someone else's podcast I mean I do this every week

but sometimes I get asked to do

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