Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 47 of the podcast my name is

Carrie Newhoff I hope our time together today helps you lead like never

before I am really thrilled to have David McDaniel as my guest for this episode

David has been a friend of mine for 10 years now and at

one point kind of was my boss when he was a director of strategic partnerships at North Point

Church. He's now an elder there and David's

one of those guys who just has done an awful lot in his life. He was in the business

sector for years and sold a startup that did incredibly well, then moved into ministry and we get to some of that story.

And now is back in business again.

He left North Point Church's staff position a couple of years ago and now he is in

commercial real estate. So he's done all kinds of interesting stuff, although he'd never tell you,

he is a Harvard MBA grad and he's simply brilliant. He's actually a close personal

friend. He is a mentor of mine. We talk regularly just about life and about

family and about leadership. In fact, right after we record this intro,

I'm going to be talking to him just about some stuff going on in my life and he's just always

got great advice. And I wanted to have David on number one because he's a friend

number two because he's brilliant number three because I think he really speaks

into that space and helps us bridge the divide between business and the church.

There's like this ongoing debate all the time in the church about you know what can business

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