Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before.

In your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 48 of the podcast.

My name is Curie New Hoff.

I'm so glad we get to hang out today.

I really hope that this time helps you lead

like never before and maybe even helps your team.

So today you're gonna meet a guy named Jeff Price and Jeff

Minister is actually just down the road from me in Canada and he has got a

fascinating story. One of the things I've always enjoyed about the way we do this

podcast is you know there's some famous people if you want to put it that way that

you probably heard of before. Andy Stanley's been a guest. So is Perry

Noble, John A. Kuff, I mean, Pete Wilson, Mark Batterson.

Coming out, we got Craig Grishell,

we've got Ravi Zacharias and a lot more,

but there's also a lot of leaders who are just, know doing what you do and I do every day and maybe who aren't particularly well known and

Jeff is somebody who leads a church that has undergone a lot of change in the last year and a half or so.

And I know a lot of it's not a huge church, it's not like, you know, well known, like Life Church

would be or North Point is, but I think that's the rub. I think that's where, you know, the trenches of ministry really are.

And so I love getting leaders like Jeff on the podcast. And I think for a lot of us, it's just like, oh, you know, I can't imagine leading a church of 90,000,

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