Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before.

In your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 34 of the podcast. My name's Carrie Newhoff and I am

am so glad that you joined us today and I really hope our time together today

helps you lead like never before.

Well we do all kinds of interviews on this podcast. I mean, people we all kind of know the name of in Church World, like Andy Stanley, Perry Noble, Mark Batterson was on recently. I mean, Tony Morgan's been on the podcast,

Casey Graham, I mean, Kara Powell, there's been a lot of people who are sort of well known,

and then some people maybe you've never heard of.

We've gotten a lot of traction on Josh Gagnon's episode or he was

episode 17 and you know Dom Russo a lot of people have never heard of Dom

pastor in Canada who's doing an incredible job leading change and this is a guy you might have heard of his name is Wayne Cordova and we have a lot in common we both worked in radio way back in the day and we talk about that but he's also known as geek

pastor he is just like totally a geek guy and is here to help us with technology now this is going to be a different

kind of episode we're not talking about writing or about leading a church, although he leads a church or helps lead a church.

We're going to talk about technology. And what I love about this interview is Wayne does it on a 101-2-01 level.

So for those of you who just hate your phones, hate technology, it's like it's a necessary evil,

Wayne's going to speak into that.

For those of you who are like, you know, I kind of like, you know, the latest technology or that,

he's going to help you out.

And then for those of you who are like total geeks, he's going to be really helpful.

And the goal of this podcast, I think, is just to help you use technology so it helps you lead better.

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