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🗓️ 17 January 2021
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Are we the only ones who spend time every. single. day. wondering how our dogs are trying to communicate with us?
We know there's at least one other person who's on the same page! Clive Wynne is a canine behaviorist who explores the incredible relationship between people and dogs in his new book, Dog is Love: Why and How Your Dog Loves You.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Jan Black. |
0:14.6 | And I'm Laura Owens. |
0:16.2 | We're thrilled to talk with our guest on this episode, |
0:18.9 | canine behaviorist Clive Wyn, who explores the incredible relationship between people and dogs in his new book, Dog is Love, Why and How Your Dog Loves You. |
0:28.9 | Clive, thank you so much for joining us. |
0:31.2 | Well, thank you so much for inviting me. It's a thrill to be with you this afternoon. |
0:34.8 | Tell us about your background and why you wrote the book. I'm a |
0:39.1 | psychology professor. I'm one of those rare psychology professors who's interested not so much in |
0:44.0 | the human mind, but in the minds of other species. And for a long time, I studied the kinds of |
0:49.4 | animals that people like me typically study, which is like rats and pigeons, small animals that fit easily |
0:55.0 | in a laboratory. But there came a point where I wanted something more than that. I wanted to |
0:59.5 | break out of my little laboratory life, and I wanted to understand the mind of an animal |
1:03.4 | that's so crucial to so many people's lives, and to really get at the puzzle as to how did this |
1:09.6 | animal get to be so important to so many of us. |
1:12.9 | And so, I don't know, 15 years ago or so now, I quit the pigeons. I closed down the lab and I |
1:20.6 | started studying the behavior of the animals that rested our feet of the beautiful dogs that we |
1:26.7 | share our lives with. So that's my |
1:28.8 | sort of history in a nutshell. What did you think originally about dogs in their capacity to love? |
1:35.2 | So when I started studying dogs, nobody talked about love. You know, we're a little, we're a little |
1:40.4 | scared of words like love for scientists, behavioral scientists, you know, how do you measure |
1:48.6 | love? What do we mean by love? It's a, it's part of everyday language. It's not part of |
1:53.1 | scientific language. So I never thought about it at all at first. At first, I never thought about it. |
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