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🗓️ 3 June 2022
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We’re excited to talk with our guest on this episode, canine behaviorist Clive Wynne who explores the incredible relationship between people and dogs in his book, "Dog is Love: Why and How Your Dog Loves You".
His website is https://www.clivewynne.com/
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Jan Black. And I'm Laura Owens. We're thrilled to talk with our guest on this episode, K-9 behaviorist Clive Wynn, who explores the incredible relationship between people and dogs in his new book, Dog is Love, Why and How Your Dog Loves You. |
0:28.8 | Clive, thank you so much for joining us. |
0:31.1 | Well, thank you so much for inviting me. It's a thrill to be with you this afternoon. |
0:34.6 | Tell us about your background and why you wrote the book. I'm a psychology |
0:39.4 | professor. I'm one of those rare psychology professors who's interested not so much in the human |
0:44.3 | mind but in the minds of other species. And for a long time, I studied the kinds of animals |
0:49.7 | that people like me typically study, which is like rats and pigeons, small animals that fit easily in a |
0:55.2 | laboratory. But there came a point where I wanted something more than that. I wanted to break |
0:59.7 | out of my little laboratory life, and I wanted to understand the mind of an animal that's so |
1:04.3 | crucial to so many people's lives, and to really get at the puzzle as to how did this animal get |
1:10.1 | to be so important to so many of us? |
1:12.7 | And so, I don't know, 15 years ago or so now, I quit the pigeons. |
1:18.9 | I closed down the lab and I started studying the behavior of the animals that rested our feet, |
1:24.9 | of the beautiful dogs that we share our lives with. So that's my |
1:28.7 | sort of history in a nutshell. What did you think originally about dogs in their capacity to love? |
1:35.1 | So when I started studying dogs, nobody talked about love. You know, we're a little, we're a little |
1:40.2 | scared of words like love for scientists, behavioral scientists. You know, how do you measure |
1:48.4 | love? What do we mean by love? It's a, it's, it's part of everyday language. It's not part of |
1:53.0 | scientific language. So I never thought about it at all at first. At first, I never thought about it. |
1:58.1 | When I started studying dog behavior and how dogs came to be so successful in human lives, |
2:03.8 | people were saying that dogs had a special kind of intelligence, |
2:06.8 | that it was their smear that gave them this skill that was the secret of their success in human lives. |
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