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Hello, welcome to another episode of Pop Bear Hikes.

Last few weeks we spent a lot of time talking about hiking and backpacking because, well,

you know, that's my main passion.

And I've just been so excited about my trip to Massachusetts and Vermont and the planning.

Well, you guys know how it went and started out one thing, went to another and ended up

being Massachusetts in Vermont.

But anyway, today we're bringing on somebody to talk about climbing, something we've never

talked about on Pop Bear Hikes, but it just has always looked so interesting to me.

I'm not a climber, but it has always looked like something I want to try.

Today's guest is not only a climber, but he's also a multi-sport coach.

He coaches people in long hiking, ultra runners, and also helps people with certain aspects

of taking part in a triathlon.

He's an avid climber, and I'd like to welcome Bob McGrath to Pop Bear Hikes.

Welcome, Bob.

Hi.

Thanks for having me.

So, Bob, we're going to start off talking about climbing, because, you know, I found

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