I'm Bill Moyers. It's good to have your ear.

Christian and climate scientist Catherine Hayho on ending the gridlock between science and religion.

We've been told that you can't be a Christian or you can't be a conservative or you can't be a person of faith or even a person of integrity

in the degree that climate is changing, that humans are responsible, and that there's something

really important we need to do about it. Climate change is a casualty of much larger societal

issues. It's not a scientific issue. It's not a matter of one more report will do it. One more

new analogy and people will get it. Information is not the

answer. The answer has much more to do with who we are as humans and how we function politically.

Thanks for joining us. There are roughly 80 million evangelical Christians in America, and for years, a majority of their ranks have refused to take global warming seriously.

Many were swayed by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, who said, if you believe in God, then intellectually, you cannot believe in man-made global warming.

You must be either agnostic or atheistic

to believe that man controls something they can't create. Then there's the powerful Republican

James Inhoff of the Senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works, who said,

God's still up there, and the arrogance of people to think that we human beings would be able to

change what he is doing in the climate is to me outrageous.

So it is that while more Americans believe global warming is real and caused by human beings,

some two-thirds of white evangelical Christians are not convinced, and they wield a lot of political clout.

These are people who believe that to be saved by God, you must be born again, your heart

and mind transformed by a cathartic spiritual experience.

But as the climate crisis worsens every day, it's clear these good folk need a different

kind of conversion, one that

opens them to the reality overtaking us. Only someone they trust one of their own is likely to help

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