Carolinas are being swamped by these heavy rains and high winds from Hurricane Florence.

The best scientists in the world are all telling us that our activities are changing the climate.

I don't think it's a hoax. I think there's probably a difference, but I don't know that it's man-made.

Experts say that we have until 2030 to avoid catastrophe.

Hello again, we're on Al-Neback with Two the Points Climate Change Update.

Here's a sound few people ever expected to hear.

Plaintiffs have claimed the deprivation, the affirmative deprivation of their rights to life, to personal

security, to family autonomy. Those rights have already been recognized by the Supreme Court or

are explicit. This action is one that appears to enforce the Constitution, but in reality,

it's nothing more than a direct assault on constitutional design.

That's the Ninth Federal Circuit Court of Appeals in a hearing last week considering these

questions. Is there a constitutional right to a safe and livable climate? Is that right being

violated by the government of the United States? And if so, what's the remedy that the

courts might impose? In 2015, 21 young Americans sued the Obama administration for allowing the

creation of an unlivable future. The prospects for success seem remote at the time,

but Juliana versus the United States,

that's the name of the case, has survived into the Trump administration, and last week's

hearing could be very important.

Julia Rosen has followed the progress of it for the Los Angeles Times, and Julia, always good to

have you with us.

Thank you for having me.

So tell us, how did we get where we are today?

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