Cleo Abram: What Could Go Right?

What Now? with Trevor Noah

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News, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.6 • 4.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2026

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

Emmy-nominated video journalist Cleo Abram joins Trevor and Eugene to talk about Huge If True, her hit YouTube series that takes an optimistic approach to science and emerging technology. The three explore how asking “what could go right?” might be the most powerful tool we have for moving humanity forward, why optimism isn’t naïve but necessary, and how the physics of curling (the most divisive Olympic sport) can be used as an example of pessimism keeping us from imagining a better world.

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0:00.0	Oh wait, let's talk about aliens actually.
0:06.7	Eugene is a huge fan of aliens.
0:09.0	I am also.
0:10.5	Have you discovered anything?
0:13.7	Apparently we're close to making first contact in the next two years.
0:16.0	You see, I love it.
0:16.6	Now we're at the party.
0:17.4	He's just said that.
0:19.2	Yeah.
0:20.1	So there's a guy called...
0:20.7	First have your drink and say it. I think it sets the scene. We're at the party. He's just said that. Yeah. So there's a guy. First have your drink and say it.
0:22.5	I think it sets the scene.
0:23.8	We're at a party.
0:25.6	Hey, yeah.
0:26.8	So aliens.
0:31.8	So there's an extraterrestrial being that comes to a guy called Daryl Anka.
0:37.2	Brer. Okay. spiritual being that comes to a guy called Daryl Anka.
0:42.3	Do you just hate it when your pessimistic friend is a DJ?
0:46.3	This is What Now with Trevor Noah.
1:01.8	You take your time.
1:09.7	You take your time. You just go ahead and take your time. You take your time.
1:11.6	You just go ahead and take your time.
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