we can actually accept our messiness and we can also learn to then manage our messiness

which is recognition okay that was messy it's okay to be messy but I can't stay in that because it's

having a consequences. Hello and welcome to the psychology podcast. Today we welcome Caroline

Leif to the show. Dr. Leif is a communication pathologist and cognitive neuroscientist

since the early 1980s she has researched the mind brain connection the nature of mental health

and the formation of memory. Dr. Leif is also the best-selling author of Switch On Your Brain.

Think, learn, succeed and cleaning up your mental mess. Her latest book is called How to Help Your

Child Clean Up Their Mental Mess. In this episode I talked to Dr. Caroline Leif about managing

the mind. The world is a crazy place and our minds can get disorderly trying to keep up with it

but according to Dr. Leif to have a messy mind is to be human. We don't have to pathologize our

emotions and thoughts. Instead we can embrace them and implement strategies that allow us to

better direct ourselves. Dr. Leif shows us how to make sense of the messy mind and the scientific

research behind those steps. We also touch on the topics of self-compassion, consciousness,

trauma and neuroplasticity. It's always fun chatting with Caroline. I was on her show

a little while back and I've been looking forward to having her on my show for a while so I'm

glad to get this out there and I think she's going to really help you clean up your mental mess

and get order on your life and make some sense of your life. So that further ado I bring you

Dr. Caroline Leif. Dr. Leif it is so exciting to have you on the psychology podcast.

Oh it's so good to be with you again. I so enjoyed interviewing you before we laughed a lot. I just

remember having a lot of laughter and a lot of great discussions so it's an honor. I remember

laughing a little lot with you too. Didn't you have like a classroom you were in a classroom

sort of background? Probably the different set on my studio because I'm in the same studio but I

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