I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about reality dating shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

I'm not drunk, bro, stop drunk, bro, love and fire. Can you keep up? I like love.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast where we get to talk to former bachelor's about their new books.

Today we have Clayton Eckert on the pod who is getting really vulnerable in his new book 180 degrees on mental health, mindfulness, and unlocking self-belief.

Thanks so much for coming on the pod. Clayton, it's great to finally virtually meet you.

Yeah, you know, I've heard some good things about you guys. So overall talking like the reviews haven't been terrible.

No, I listen, I definitely have to do my research at a time so I don't just go walk into a lion's den.

It's like so many lions that you can walk into before you're like, I got there's nothing left to meet a to walk into another one.

Yeah, we're not here to have lunch.

Okay, so that's a lot of people say. So I'll take that with the great stuff.

They say that and then you guys will start off easy. Like I'll talk about the book.

All right, Clayton, now the juicy stuff. You're just going to cut it in midway. So that's fine.

Okay.

Well, this is a bachelor show. So we're going to talk about everything. But we really want to hear kind of about how you have been processing everything through the book and like.

And why the book was an important way for you to to approach that.

And so I guess that's our first question. Like what made you want to process your experiences on the show and your whole life, even before the show in a memoir.

Yeah, for me, it was super therapeutic to write the book. It was essentially a journal. So I picked that up on Michelle season of the batch about talking with Brandon, who was my roommate at the time.

And he showed me his journal. And I remember my first thought in my head was you have a diary.

You know, because again, like that was like the toxic masculine and the that I was raised around to think like, oh, you have a diary dude. Like that's not.

I don't know any other guy that has this. Like a little lock and key.

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