Classic Replay: Toxic Masculinity, Egalitarianism and the Church with Martin Saunders and Kyle Robinson

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🗓️ 5 February 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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From the Archives: Following on from a discussion on a previous Unbelievable? Podcast Episode with Kristin Kobes du Mez, this episode digs into the question of whether Toxic Masculinity is an issue facing the church today? Kyle Thompson of men’s ministry Undaunted Life says we need to champion biblical masculinity in a church that has become too feminised. Martin Saunders, author of ‘The Man You Were Made To Be’ says we need to leave behind gender stereotypes and help young Christian men make sense of masculinity in today’s world. Tell us what you think and get in touch with us on X @PremierUnbelievable_FE or write to us via our website: premierunbelievable.com Find out more: For Martin Saunders: https://www.youthscape.co.uk/store/product/the-man-youre-made-to-be For Kyle Thompson: https://www.undaunted.life • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/courses • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:18.9	cold at UK. I'm going to see. Hello and this week we're delving back into the
0:44.2	archives. Let's jump in on today's discussion. Today on the show we're
0:51.0	asking is toxic masculinity a problem in the church.
0:55.0	Well, Carl Thompson of the US Men's Ministry undaunted life.
0:59.0	He's here today defending the value of championing masculinity in the church.
1:04.4	He's in conversation today with Martin Saunders, deputy CEO of Youthscape in the UK
1:09.7	whose book The Man You're Made to Be is a guide for young Christians.
1:14.4	He says we need to leave behind unhelpful stereotypes and help our young people make sense of
1:19.4	masculinity in today's world. So we're asking do we have a toxic masculinity problem in the
1:25.1	church today. Martin and Kyle welcome along to the show. It's great to have you both
1:29.3	with me. Martin will introduce you first if people were to search way back in the archives of
1:35.7	unbelievable they would find an appearance when we were both colleagues at
1:39.6	Premier back in the day I don't know if you you remember that occasion when you appeared on the show?
1:45.0	I do. I do. You asked me to go, you said, can you do an unbelievable episode in an hour please because the guy who he
1:57.1	booked to do it has pulled out I sense that might have happened again but but you said the guys pulled out and the person you're up against is Philip Pullman, the acclaimed atheist children's author. And so I had to go totally. a And I think you did a good job you did a good job. You know good enough that he came back on another time so good
2:28.0	So it's lovely to catch up with you again. You now obviously have moved on to higher and better things. Tell us about
2:35.7	what youthscape is and your role there. Yeah so we are a youth ministry based here in the UK. We work with young people locally in the town of Luton where the ministry is based and that's really the sort of where we're rooted.
2:52.0	But we actually also work nationally with youth leaders and with
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