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Hello there, welcome along to another classic replay, Deep from the Archives of Unbelievable,

this one from 2013. Former atheist Holly Ordway came to Christian faith by Poetry and Literature,

and she tells her story and explains her passion for literary apologetics in today's show.

Laura Miller is an online literary critic and a no-nostic. She loved the Na'Ni stories as a child,

but felt betrayed by C.S. Lewis after discovering their Christian symbolism as an avid well.

In this show, Holly and Laura discussed the rights and wrongs of using literature for a Christian

message. The great art, poetry and literature point to a transcendent reality that was our other

question. Hope you enjoyed today's show. Don't forget if you want more from C.S. Lewis,

do check out our C.S. Lewis podcast over at premierunbelieveable.com. So many great episodes of the show

there, especially of course, Alistair McGraft, the key guest from Week to Week on the show,

bringing you the thought and theology of C.S. Lewis with the presenter Ruth Jackson. Again,

that's premierunbelieveable.com. And when you're ready to there at our website, you'll get

load of great access to all of the material across our website. But for now, let's join Laura Miller

and Holly Ordway in today's classic replay, First Broadcast in 2013.

Well, it's my great pleasure to be joined in the studio by Holly Ordway, who's a poet,

a Christian apologist, and chair of the Department of Apologetics at Houston Baptist University.

She has a story of actually being converted from atheism as an adult to Christianity via literature

and poetry. It's in her book Not God's Type. And you can find out more about her at her website

hyropraxis.com. Laura Miller is my other guest, joining us by phone from the states, also an American.

She joined me on the program actually a few years ago. And if you go back in the archives,

you'll find a really interesting discussion between her and C.S. Lewis scholar Michael Ward when she

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