Sexuality, Gender & Identity: 2 views on LGBT and the church - Andrew Bunt & Charlie Bell

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🗓️ 17 February 2023

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Andrew Bunt, Emerging Generations director at Living Out and author of 'Finding Your Best Identity', is a same-sex attracted Christian who has chosen celibacy and believes marriage is male-female. Charlie Bell, a gay Anglican vicar who also works as a psychiatrist, is the author of 'Queer Holiness' and wants to see gay marriage accepted in the church. In a live show with audience Q&A they discuss sexuality, gender and identity, recent controversy in the CofE over gay blessings, and what the Bible says about marriage and LGBT. Give today and receive our e-book 'Why You Can Believe' https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate/ For Andrew Bunt: https://ivpbooks.com/finding-your-best-identity For Living Out: https://www.livingout.org/ For Charlie Bell: https://www.dartonlongmantodd.co.uk/titles/2359-9781913657925-queer-holiness • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0	I have no doubt that I'm sexually and romantically attracted to guys that I'm gay in that sense.
0:12.7	That's not who I am, it's just part of how I am, it's part of my experience, it's
0:16.2	a descriptive reality.
0:17.2	There are lots of other things that are true of me that aren't my identity.
0:21.0	And identity, the key thing is what do I need to embrace to find my best life?
0:24.6	And actually I think I need to embrace what God says about me, and so God says that
0:28.0	in Christ I'm a child of God, it's living out with me to be a child of God that I've
0:31.4	found my best life.
0:32.7	Not say that who I am and my core is a gay man and therefore I need a gay relationship
0:37.2	to live that out.
0:38.6	Andrew, or perhaps a straight person who holds Andrew's perspective, is not trying to
0:43.2	exclude.
0:44.2	That's not their starting point.
0:46.0	Their starting point is their understanding of Scripture.
0:48.0	Now I think they might be completely mad, completely wrong.
0:51.1	I might think their understanding of Scripture is completely wrong.
0:54.0	But we've got to treat people like human beings on both sides of this conversation.
0:58.5	And I think we've been really, really poor at doing that.
1:01.3	I think in a sense all of us in this, all of us who have had this conversation over
1:05.4	time.
1:06.4	You're listening to Unbelievably with Justin Breilly.
1:14.2	Hello there and welcome to today's show, playing out what happened at our recent unbelievable
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