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You've entered the Paracast with your host, Jane Steinberg and David Vieti.

It's time we make a pitch for reasonable discourse.

Oh, it's a tough one, Gene.

In this environment that we live in, it's tough to have a reasonable discourse because

most people don't seem particularly reasonable.

Or they are reasonable, but they get so emotionally wrapped up in things that reasoning sort

of goes out the window and emotions take over.

And that's always a dangerous path.

Well, in politics, of course, it gets pretty unreasoned at times.

Certainly in this field, it does because we have so many competing factions.

We have the believers, the non-believers,

the various shades of believers, each having their own personal belief system. And by the time

you add it all up and you mix it up in the blender, you get sometimes a pretty difficult

situation.

Well, you get the range of human experience. We've talked a little bit on the show about Robert Anton Wilson,

the writer and philosopher, and I like to think the really clear-headed thinker, though he

probably would blanch at that statement. But Robert Anton Wilson talked about reality tunnels,

that people basically perceive reality through a specific set of circumstances that was about their lives. And Robert

Anton Wilson felt that all reality tunnels presented something of interest to someone trying

to understand the universe, that if you really want to understand how the universe worked, that

you would consider everyone's reality tunnel or their perception of reality to tell you something

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