You're in the Paracast. You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

On the Paracast with Gene and Chris, we have two interesting, fascinating guests.

Of course, my old friend Tim Beckley, whom I've known for four or five hundred years in various incarnations.

He joins us.

Tim?

Hey, Chris.

How are you going up there?

Happy to you, man.

You too.

You too.

Our special guest is Ray B. Palmer.

He's a son of the UFO and occult legendary editor and publisher Ray Palmer.

Of course, he's not junior.

He's Raymond B.

And, of course, Ray Palmer was Raymond A.

And we'll talk about the life in times of Ray Palmer

and how Ray B Palmer interacted with a lot of the interesting people in the UFO field,

including Richard Shaver, who lived just down the road.

Now, as those of you who have known me for years will realize,

I met Ray Palmer back in the mid-1960s. That ages me. And I don't know if you were at home

at the time, Ray B or not, but I visited your home in Amherst in 1965 with a group of people,

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