CLASSIC CLIPS | The Night Ronaldinho Taught Joe Cole A Brutal Lesson & Mourinho’s RUTHLESS Chelsea
That Peter Crouch Podcast
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🗓️ 11 May 2026
⏱️ 8 minutes
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FROM THE VAULT: In this clip, Joe Cole joins the lads to reflect on the ruthless standards set by Jose Mourinho during Chelsea’s glory years, including the brutal lesson he learned after facing Ronaldinho and Barcelona at the Nou Camp.
Joe opens up on Mourinho’s obsession with tactical discipline, the fear factor inside the dressing room, and the savage man-management techniques that kept Chelsea’s squad on edge.
The former England international also shares hilarious stories from his first ever England call-up at just 18 years old, including meeting legends like David Beckham, Paul Scholes and Tony Adams, as well as witnessing Kevin Keegan resign after England’s defeat to Germany at the old Wembley.
Elsewhere, Joe breaks down one of football’s most painful and underappreciated jobs — being the designated “charger” in the wall — and why taking a free-kick to the face was sometimes the easy option.
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| 0:00.0 | What was different with Jose to make you get into the right position at that time? |
| 0:03.8 | He liked partnerships on the pitch. |
| 0:05.0 | So I played on the right, Paolo Ferreira played behind me. |
| 0:07.8 | What he was very big on was you'd pick up left back, right? |
| 0:13.9 | And if he got a crossing, it was my responsibility, not the right backs. |
| 0:19.8 | Do you know what I mean? |
| 0:20.4 | So, and you just |
| 0:22.5 | knew if you, if you got it wrong, like there's a game, we're playing Barcelona in the new camp, |
| 0:27.4 | right? I was playing right midfield. And it was the first time I'm playing it was Ronaldinho. |
| 0:32.1 | So stupidly, so the ball's gone into Ronaldinho, He's pinned Paulo Ferreira, and he's got, |
| 0:37.8 | we're all in a nice defensive position. |
| 0:39.4 | We're all set. |
| 0:52.5 | I can see Van Brancos, and he's made a run. And I thought, that's a stupid run. He's never going to get that. And Ronodino just gone, done something, lollipop, bang, back-heeled it, into Van Brancos. |
| 0:53.6 | There's one of them moments from the picture |
| 0:54.1 | and I was like, oh shit. |
| 0:57.2 | Van Brock was witching across. Esu's missed it by a Rizzo. But that was because it was Ronardino, and I took a gamble where I let Van Brancos run. And I thought right now, for the rest of the 40 or 50 games, there's no ever, there's not |
| 1:11.2 | going to be a fallback that's going to run past me. |
| 1:13.5 | Jose was the best that like, just like putting a player down in a brilliant way. |
| 1:20.4 | Like it was like Ricky Cavalio, obviously great player. |
| 1:24.1 | Great at a game, right? |
| 1:25.9 | He had a row with Jose about something. After the game, |
| 1:29.7 | he didn't play. But blah, blah, blah. And Joseph's gone, you, same thing. You will never play |
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