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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Clare Malone on “The Meme-ification of American Politics”

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4675 Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2024

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

As more and more people get their news from social media, how have political memes come to play such an outsized role in the discourse?

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0:00.0

From WNYC Studios, I'm Brian Lerer.

0:08.1

This is my daily politics podcast.

0:10.8

It's Wednesday, February 7th.

0:14.4

We're going to talk about the memification of politics and the presidential election year now because viral content dominates the political

0:24.3

landscape. I obviously am not bringing you anything new by saying that. And memes, and we're

0:30.5

going to define memes, are playing an outsized role and an ever-increasing role in shaping American

0:36.7

politics. There's a good article about this

0:39.2

in The New Yorker by staff writer Claire Malone, who's going to join us in just a second to delve

0:45.0

into the memification of our politics, and she explores the way internet culture has helped

0:50.7

politicians. They're definitely trying to use it. Observers and the broader

0:55.0

public spread their ideas, their misinformation, rally support, or at times create a degree

1:02.9

of chaos. And as a result, Claire writes, the 2024 election seems likely to be waged in a media

1:09.8

environment where more and more voters are forming opinions based on the funny video their cousin's husband, sister, shared in a group chat.

1:18.9

Sound familiar?

1:20.1

So what's the first image that you have if I say Joe Biden?

1:24.7

Maybe not for you, Brian Marshall listeners, but for a lot of Americans, it might be

1:30.0

what they saw on TikTok of Joe Biden falling off a bicycle, or Donald Trump as seen in mugshots.

1:39.2

And Americans may have doubts about Biden's age as reflected reflected by that video, but the former president,

1:45.8

Trump, himself only a few years younger than Biden, so far, according to Claire, seems less

1:51.4

affected by the memeification. Maybe that's a good example of the way memes can shape the

1:57.4

public's perception, accurate or not. What does this all mean for 2024?

2:03.2

Claire Malone's new article in New Yorker is called the memeification of American politics.

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