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🗓️ 10 July 2023
⏱️ 109 minutes
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During two and a half years of cancer treatment, Claire Gilbert found a spiritual companion in Julian of Norwich. We speak to Claire about her experience of writing Julian's fictional autobiography. She considers the tensions between Julian's visions and Holy church, whilst reflecting on the possibilities that open up when we are transformed by both suffering and love.
Following the interview, Anna and Joy consider the themes of Julian's life and how they apply to their experiences of faith and spirituality.
Interview starts at 18m 13s
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0:00.0 | The |
0:07.0 | The Welcome to Know My Podcast. I'm Anna Robinson and this is Joy Brooks. Hi Joy. Hello. How are you doing? Yeah, I'm doing well, thanks. It's Thursday mornings, which is the day we're recording, is a nice morning because I don't start my employed job until midday. So quite often I get to just take |
0:57.8 | things at a bit more of a leisurely pace. So yeah, I've been enjoying pottering and doing some Tai Chi, |
1:05.6 | which, well, unlike you, Anna, I've been very careful about saying this on air because I've waited until it's something that's become a habit because I noticed that you only had to do one bit of baseball. |
1:17.1 | Oh, don't. |
1:18.6 | But yeah, I know. |
1:20.1 | Yeah, but this, I've actually fallen in love with practicing Tai Chi movements and it's probably been a few months now. |
1:26.9 | And I twisted my ankle a month or so ago |
1:29.2 | and really missed being able to do it. So I've had time to do all of those things this morning. |
1:33.3 | So I'm feeling quite Zen right now. How about you? You're looking really zen and alive and |
1:39.4 | vibrant. When I turned the camera on, I was a bit shocked. It's a ragged state of my... |
1:45.0 | But that's partly because I have got salty sea dog hair because I did go for... |
1:50.5 | I did actually get up early with my eldest daughter today and head down for a swim on our local beach. |
1:57.1 | And it was absolutely beautiful. |
1:59.0 | It was, well, empty apart from a couple of dog walkers. |
2:03.0 | And we had the beach to ourselves. And I've not done that with her before. I haven't, I swim with |
2:07.6 | other people, but I've never, she asked if she could, you know, go down to her swim. So it was a lovely |
2:12.6 | mother-daughter moment. And it was chilly, but lovely. And we splashed about for a little bit, had a bit of a dip |
2:18.5 | and then came home. And then I did walk the dog as well after dropping her to school. So I've |
2:23.1 | actually also done quite a lot. But yeah, I look a bit more like I've been in the elements than you |
2:28.3 | do. It's the beach babe look. That's what you can call it. I'll take that. |
2:34.6 | I'll take that. |
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