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Witness History

Civil rights swim-in

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

On 18 June 1964, black and white protesters jumped into a ‘whites only’ swimming pool at a motel in St Augustine, in Florida.

Photos of the Monson Motor Lodge manager, James Brock, pouring cleaning acid into the pool to get them out, made global headlines.

The following day, the Civil Rights Act - a landmark bill to end discrimination which had been stalling in the Senate – was finally passed.

Using archive interviews with two of the swimming activists, JT Johnson and Mimi Jones, Vicky Farncombe looks back at this crucial moment in the civil rights movement.

This programme includes outdated and offensive language.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there. For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more.

Recent episodes explore everything from football in Brazil, the history of the ‘Indian Titanic’ and the invention of air fryers, to Public Enemy’s Fight The Power, subway art and the political crisis in Georgia. We look at the lives of some of the most famous leaders, artists, scientists and personalities in history, including: visionary architect Antoni Gaudi and the design of the Sagrada Familia; Michael Jordan and his bespoke Nike trainers; Princess Diana at the Taj Mahal; and Görel Hanser, manager of legendary Swedish pop band Abba on the influence they’ve had on the music industry. You can learn all about fascinating and surprising stories, such as the time an Iraqi journalist hurled his shoes at the President of the United States in protest of America’s occupation of Iraq; the creation of the Hollywood commercial that changed advertising forever; and the ascent of the first Aboriginal MP.

(Photo: Monson Motor Lodge manager, James Brock, pouring cleaning acid into the pool. Credit: Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:34.9

Hi, this is the Witness History podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Vicki Farncom, one of the Witness History presenting team. We're the podcast that takes you back to a key moment in history through incredible archive and the amazing memories of one key witness. episodes are just nine minutes long and come out every weekday.

0:55.5

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1:00.1

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1:05.1

For the amazing story I've got for you today, we're going back to 1964,

1:09.6

when black and white protesters jumped into a whites-only swimming pool

1:13.7

at a motel in Florida.

1:16.2

The shocking response of the hotel manager was captured on film and is regarded as a crucial

1:22.4

moment in America's civil rights movement.

1:25.9

Just to warn you, this program uses language in a historical context that listeners may find offensive.

1:36.5

I was near the edge of the pool, and all of a sudden, the water in front of my face started to bubble up like a volcanic eruption.

1:47.5

I could barely breathe. It was entering my nose and my eyes. It was just very frightening.

1:56.8

That's the late civil rights activist Mimi Jones speaking on GBAH News in America in 2017.

2:05.2

In the clip, she's wearing a shiny magenta top and black trousers.

2:09.8

Her face is animated and she's someone who talks with her hands, gesticulating a lot.

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