Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,

great men, and great ideas. This is Hillsdale Dialogues, part of the Hillsdale College

Podcast Network. More episodes at podcast.com.hillsdale.org, or wherever you

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Good morning, glory, and evening, Grace, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt at Music Means. We're in the last

broadcast hour of the week. If you're watching on the Salem News Channel or listening on the Salem Radio Network or one of our great affiliates,

we are in episode 20 of our series on Winston Churchill's World War II memoirs,

which is really a series about World War II since he was there from the beginning of the end.

And Dr. Larry Arne is my guest, president of Hillsdale College, all things Hillsdale at

Hillsdale.edu. All of our prior dialogues in the series, the first 19, are collected at

Hugh for Hillsdale.com. All of our dialogues going back to 2013 are collected at Hugh for

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Dr. Arne, we move on to the tragedy of Poland.

I've only been to Poland once.

I love their pope that they gave my church, but I've only been there once.

Have you spent much time there?

I have been once, yeah, and I spent two days there.

I had a great visit, by the way. It's a, it's a fantastic place. It's one of those many victim countries in Eastern Europe, dominated in alternation

between mostly Russia and also Germany. And the Polish people are proud and great and, you know, there's a lot of, lots of wonderful

about it. After Prime Minister Carney gave his speech in Davos three weeks ago, I went and looked up.

Canada spends less than 2% of their GDP on national defense, and they

haven't spent 2% in consecutive years since before the Soviet Union fell. Poland right now is

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