Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,

great men, and great ideas. This is Hillsdale Dialogues, part of the Hillsdale College

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Morning, glory, and evening, grace, America.

I'm Hugh Huit.

Welcome to the Hillsdale Dialogue.

That music always means it's the last broadcast hour of the week in the Hillsdale Dialogue. We talk about big issues, big books, big things, and for the past many weeks and for the future many weeks, Dr. Larry, I, on President of Hillsdale College, who joins me, and I are telling you about this book, The Gathering Storm, the first volume

of Winston Churchill's six-volume history.

And it's so fascinating because it covers a lot more years than the next five do, and he

has to do it in rather perfunctory fashion, but he pauses at Chapter 4, and it's titled

simply Hitler. Now, I got a preliminary question for you, Dr. Ar four, and it's titled simply Hitler.

Now, I got a preliminary question for you, Dr. Arne, and welcome back.

I've never read a Hitler biography.

I'm simply not interested.

I never read Mink.

I haven't read a biography of Mao either.

It might be a deeply bred caution that goes into every Catholic schoolboy

about the don't learn about the occasion of sin and you won't sin. But all I know is the

wreckage that Stalin and Lenin and Hitler and Mao left. Have you ever dove deep into the Hitler

bio? Because it's what Churchill gives us is fascinating?

Well, I've read two biographies of Hitler and I regard them as the two best, but they're the only ones I've read.

And they're both in English. I don't read German. And one of them was written in 1946, roughly by, maybe 51, not long after the war, by Alan Bullock.

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