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Morning and glory, evening, grace, America.

I'm Hugh Hewitt.

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Dr. Larry Arne is my guest for the Hillsdale Dialogue.

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All of our prior dialogues, including in this series, which is part six today on Winston Churchill's

history of the Second World War. We're in this book, The Gathering Storm, which is the first

volume of six, and we are on chapter five, chapter four, actually, the locust year, 1931 to

1935. And Dr. Ron, before I begin with the specific, what does the phrase the locust year,

what is it intended to communicate? That's a phrase that Churchill picked up from a politician

named Kingsley Wood, who was a Northern England lawyer, a friend of Naval Chamberlains,

who brought Kingsley Wood into politics.

And it's a quote from the Bible, isn't it?

The years that the locust hath eaten.

And waste was laid, in this case, by inaction.

These were the years, you know, it was when Churchill, and he really begins in earnest in late 1932, when he begins to campaign

for a strong front against Hitler, Churchill is not at any point calling for war. He's calling for

weapons. We got to build up. We got to deter him. And he's weak, right?

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