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This week as we do most weeks, we're joined by Dr. Larry on, president of Hillsdale College.

All things Hillsdale are found at Hillsdale.edu, and we're back in this book,

The Gathering Storm, Volume 1, Winston Churchill's World War II history.

It's part eight for us because we're on Chapter 7, and we might get into chapters 8 and 9 as well.

Chapter 7 is entitled Air Parity Lost 1934 to 1935.

Dr. I'm to remind everyone about how we got here, 1934, the Depression has crashed in on Great Britain.

The Versailles Treaty has been not yet breached formally by Hitler, but he's getting pretty

close.

Hitler's in power since 1932.

And Churchill writes on page 100, air power is the most difficult of all forms of military,

because you can disguise military power when it's air power

by building airports and airplanes that can be converted.

It's really kind of the obvious thing, but it wasn't obvious then.

Well, it was obvious to Churchill.

He saw it.

He took up aviation early, as soon as anybody did, had a couple of crashes. His wife finally made him stop. But he saw that these things are fast and they're not very heavy, can't be, and they don't cost money like a battleship.

And so that's, you know, you just think this whole thing, this, this, you know,

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