That music means it's time for the Hillsdale Dialogue, the last radio hour of the week,

the last hour of this Hillam News channel of my program during the week, and that means usually,

as is the case this week, Dr. Larry Arne, president of Hillsdale College, joins us.

Dr. Arn, welcome back. We enjoyed talking to Dean Spalding last week, but we know you've been busy. We all saw you,

at least most of us saw you, give the eulogy for Charlie Kirk two weeks back. I'd like to begin

there. Can you tell me how that came to be and how you decided to go about? It was very elegant,

it was very eloquent, and it was precise in timing. How did that all come together,

and why did they ask you to do it? Well, I met Charlie when he was 19, and 19-year-olds

are my specialty. So I, you know, he was becoming famous, and I wondered if he deserved it. So I, you know, he was becoming famous and I wondered if he deserved it.

So I asked him some hard questions and he couldn't answer them.

And he said, what do I do?

And I said, I told him my favorite Lincoln story.

Lincoln decided to learn how to prove a thing.

So he went home, left his law, apprentice work, and memorized all the propositions in the

books of Euclid.

And I said to Charlie, that's real ambitious.

And just trying to get ahead quicker than anybody else is not that ambitious.

And Charlie, you took that to heart.

And this all is a commentary on him.

He's a very remarkable man.

He started taking online courses.

He would take them and pass the exam and text me to my cell phone, holding his certificate.

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