Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,

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Morning, glory, evening, grace, America.

I'm Hugh Hewitt.

Welcome back.

The Hillsdale Dialogue is underway.

The last radio hour of the week. Dr. Larry Arne is my guest. Welcome back. The Hillsdale Dialogue is underway the last radio hour of the week.

Dr. Larry Arne is my guest. He's president of Hillsdale College. And he is the equal of any Churchill

authority on the planet. And I think he just, after we broke off, and I stayed in London a couple of days,

I went out to Bletchley Park. I believe Dr. Arn went to the war rooms with some people,

but I also went into a place called Hatchards, which I'd never been to before, Dr. Arn,

magnificent bookstore pretty close to, I don't know where it is. My wonderful wife found

it, and I could have been in there all day. They had an entire section on Churchill that was, I mean,

it was overflowing with things I wanted to buy and read. Have you been in there? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And it's got a rival in New York called the Strand Bookshop, but it's one of the best. It's really

great. Well, I had my Father's Day present picked out from me and delivered, which is Churchill

in Punch. I don't know if you've ever seen this, but every illustration of Churchill that

ever appeared in Punch is collected in one book. It's a very big book. There were a lot of cartoons

about Churchill. Yeah, and see, they're good to look at it, too, because there's history in there, because the early punch cartoons about Churchill show him very skinny.

And he was a slight little thing, you know, and he really didn't get fat until he got to be 50.

And then he became the guy we know.

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