From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell.

Sitting across for me is a kind of a trailblazer for me.

And a trailblazer for us, a guy who's doing one of the first shows for a streaming network that's ad supporter rather than being subscription. That network is crackle. The show is the art of more and its creator. Chuck Rose is sitting with me. Chuck, first of all, thanks much for being here. Oh, thank you very much for having me.

My pleasure. Now, tell the audience a little bit what the show is about.

Well, the show is set in the world of big New York auction houses.

It's about the rivalry between sort of a fictional Sotheby's and Christie's

and sort of the dirty goings on that happened behind the scenes of the New York auction world.

And so much of this I've been getting played in the last few years, I mean, the fraudulent wine auctions and all

those kinds of things. So it seems like a pretty apt time for a show like this, doesn't it?

The show became topical in more ways than I ever could have imagined when I first wrote it back

in 2013. You know know it came out of just

you know a deep love that I had for the art world but also sort of an amazement at the fact that

you know it's such a dirty world I mean the art itself is so beautiful and you would think

that something that's so beautiful and removed from the harsh realities of life would be a beautiful world to be in but the irony is that the dirty things

that people do because they know that people have such passion for this work and so whenever

you have passion and you have high price tags it it sort of brings out the underbelly.

What was that great line from Balzac? Isn't it? There is no clean money.

Or behind every great fortune, there's a crime. A great crime. Yeah, sure, absolutely. These things both lend themselves. But you spent some time in the art world, the auction world, did you know? I did. I mean, it first began when I lived

in New York, when I was right out of college and I was just broken. I would spend a lot of time at the

museum because it was the one thing you could do in New York that was free. And you could spend

the whole day, you know, at the Met and just kind of lose yourself. And it really sort of inspired me to just dream about all the things that are out there

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