Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep.

On their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, playing for tips on a subway station platform or else

a scrappy upstart, playing for tips during your Twitch live stream.

This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most and ironclad

excuse to put off, actually writing.

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