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Hey everybody, it's Glenn Thrush with Politico's OffMessage podcast.

A note on my voice.

I have the Philly Flu.

I in about 50% of the press corps that covered the convention in Philadelphia, Democratic Convention, got the worst head cold ever,

so I apologize if I sound like I'm underwater. Well, this is a podcast unlike really anything

we've ever done before, just in the way that it went down. We brought Senator Chris Murphy,

the freshman from Connecticut, a guy who has made his name by filibustering on gun control on the

Senate floor. It was kind of an unknown guy. Also was Senator when the terrible Newtown

shootings took place and really worked with the families there.

We had them for kind of like a drive-by, sit down, just like a 20-minute interview.

And it turned out after we started engaging with him that we needed to really spend a lot more time on this.

And let me explain to my evolution in the middle of this podcast.

You will notice my tone of my questioning in the middle of this podcast. You will notice my tone of my

questioning at the beginning of this thing is really skeptical and bordering on hostile.

The reason for that is I was really wondering whether or not this dude, who was very young,

really felt committed to this as a cause, or if he saw this as a vehicle for his own advancement

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