Welcome back to Kaffiru Castle everybody. Frank here. Aaron is in some meetings

today so I have a special guest my brown brother from the west coast from

another mother. Chris Molina. What's going on Chris? Not a whole lot. Morning

Frank glad to be on. Yeah it is early in the morning here. It's uh it's 6.30

here in the morning so it's got to be pretty early over there. What is it like

4.30 or 5.30? No it's 5.30. 4.00 now or behind it's 5.30 here. Yeah. But yes it is

it is early. Especially when you're a government worker like me. So Chris has

been hammering in the gym for at least an hour so it's not very early for him.

Plus you got a you got a couple kids so I'm sure they wake up

for decently early. You got a couple babies right? Yeah I got a couple there

they're hopefully still sleeping though. I don't think they got up yet but

generally yes they are up by 5 or 6 usually. Thank you for that. Yeah I'm

definitely definitely trying to hold off as long as possible so we'll see

what happens with that. That's funny. Yeah I will see. I give you a year too we'll

see. Yeah that's funny. So I've known Chris for probably since I worked here

Chris used to work for Bo-Tech but now he's he's moved on to an adult job but

I mean I tell us a little bit about yourself Chris and how long you work for

Bo-Tech and how you got into the outdoor industry and stuff like that. Yeah I

think I think I met what I need here and back in 2000. I want to see 2014 or so.

We did a seminar at the Bo-Tech workshop here in Spain with him and Jason Phelps.

But I started for Bo-Tech back in 2009, tennis. It's kind of a weird story I didn't

grow up in a hunting family. Kind of just met a friend of mine that was a bow

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