As I record this, my guest today, Chris McCausland is taking a break from a huge stand-up tour called Yonks,

so-called because he's been doing this for Yonks and Yonks, and is not the overnight success that some people claim he is.

We will hear him tell us about those early years. We will hear him tell us how, you know, performing was never really something he wanted to do,

which I was staggered by.

We'll also hear, how would I lie to you, on which he appeared.

He's come on, I think, two or three times, and he's made such a big impression on the show.

He tells us how the show made a big impression on the show. He tells us how

the show made a big impression on him. Enough of my yacking. Sit back, relax and enjoy,

Ryan and Chris McCausen and I, talking about the difficulty of securing tickets for Taylor Swift.

Yeah.

Because, Chris, you know what it's like when you're in show business. You know people. You know promoters and promoters, no no promoters you can get tickets for just about

anything different level in it but taylor yeah oh oh boy she is huge we had the big discussion yesterday

it was father's day yesterday i'm talking to chris mccors on comedian actor writer everything

and uh all my kids were at the house and they range from 29 to 13. And talking about

Taylor Swift and whether everyone in the world loves her or not. I said when you get to that level,

you get people that absolutely loathe you as well.

Like Colplay, you know, at that level.

Loathe the success.

But there's enough for the ones that love you to sustain a billion pound career in Taylor's own case, isn't there?

Whereas for you and I, if we get too many of those people that hate us, it's all over.

Oh, well, you know, it's Swindon Arts Centre would be a little bit too full, wouldn't it?

Swindon, Swindon Art Centre.

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