Tetrogrammaton I was an art major originally, but I was putting myself through college making pottery.

I went to Long Beach State University, which was the Clay School.

That was where anyone who wanted to develop their skills,

there were two doctors of ceramics teaching there,

and it kind of ran its course.

And even though there's really interesting stuff

that are like industrial design,

things that I'm really interested in,

I decided after two years of that, that it wasn't the direction I needed to be in.

And I walked literally down the hill to the journalism department, walked into a teacher's office

and says, how do I become a journalism major?

He said, do this, do this, do this.

I graduated to the degree in journalism.

And because I was a surfer, I did my internship at Surfing Magazine, which was San Clementi.

It was perfect.

They were going from a bi-monthly to a monthly.

You know, I fit right in.

I made myself indispensable.

They hired me and I ended up working at the magazine on site for five years.

Wow.

But during that period, there was a guy working as a rider and he was a surfer, but he was also a screenwriter.

And he and I got to be friendly, and he invited me on a river rafting trip,

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