Chris Brose on 'The Kill Chain'
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🗓️ 6 July 2020
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Christian Brose was the staff director of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and he was also John McCain's senior policy adviser. He now works as the chief strategy officer of Anduril Industries, and he is the author of "The Kill Chain: Defending America and the Future of High-Tech Warfare," a look at how far behind the United States is growing in possible conflict against its principal national security adversary: China. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Chris to talk through what would happen if China and the United States actually fought a war. How has China modernized its military so quickly without the kind of military spending the United States has engaged in? And what does the United States need to do to stay current?
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:55.7 | What we need to realise is that if China continues on its path of growth and its trajectory |
| 1:22.7 | of development, it is going to become a competitor unlike anything the United States has faced since arguably the 19th century, |
| 1:29.7 | which is more than a great power, but it appears far more powerful than the Soviet Union ever was at the peak of its power. |
| 1:38.7 | And I think the conclusion that I take from that is, you know, look, China could fall flat on its face tomorrow. |
| 1:44.7 | I mean, anything could happen, but in the event that that doesn't, and we can't plan under the assumption that it won't, |
| 1:50.7 | we are going to have to redefine some of the objectives that we've had for the past 30 years as far as the endurance of US global military primacy. |
| 2:00.7 | I'm Benjamin Wittes and this is the Law Fair Podcast July 6th, 2020. |
| 2:07.7 | Christian Bros. was the staff director of the Senate Armed Services Committee. |
| 2:13.7 | He was also John McCain, senior policy adviser. He now works as the Chief Strategy Officer of Endurial Industries, |
| 2:23.7 | and he is the author of the Killchain, defending America in the future of high-tech warfare. |
| 2:30.7 | It's a fascinating look at how far behind the United States is growing in possible conflict against its principal national security adversary. |
| 2:43.7 | China, I sat down with Chris in the virtual jungle studio to talk it all through. |
| 2:49.7 | What would happen if China and the United States actually fought a war? |
| 2:54.7 | How has China modernized its military so quickly without the kind of military spending the US has engaged in? |
| 3:03.7 | And what does the United States need to do to stay current? |
| 3:08.7 | It's the Law Fair Podcast July 6th, happy fourth everybody. |
| 3:13.7 | Chris Bros. on the Killchain. |
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