Hey, it's Liz Kelly and welcome to the Ringer Podcast Network.

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Welcome to the day of Chang Show, part of the Ringer Podcast Network presented by Major

of Doma Media.

This is the second week of our year anniversary celebration and we are going to do two podcasts

this week.

So thank you guys for tuning in.

This week's guests are Chad Robertson and Chris Bianco, two of them best, most iconic

chef slash bakers, pizza makers in America today.

And I love them dearly because they've done it their way and they are masters, true masters

of their craft.

This week's episode features their chef partnership.

They're both very distinct in terms of the kind of food they cook and where the chefs are

in terms of their careers.

But as different as they may seem on the outside, I think there's a unique thread that runs

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