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Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Chris Best

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin

Arts, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Chris Best is a technology entrepreneur and CEO of Substack. In 2017, he co-founded Substack, the publishing platform that helped popularize paid newsletters and direct-to-audience media businesses for writers, journalists, and creators. Previously, he worked as a vice president of engineering at Kickstarter and earlier co-founded the social messenger app Kik. Under his leadership, Substack has grown into a major player in independent media, attracting prominent authors, commentators, and podcasters seeking ownership of their audiences and subscription revenue. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: AG1 https://DrinkAG1.com/tetra ------ Athletic Nicotine https://www.AthleticNicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://DrinkLMNT.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Lectio 365 https://Lectio365.com ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

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0:00.0

Tetragrammaton

0:02.0

Tetracketka

0:07.0

Tremat I've always believed that the things you read and the media you consume in general is not just how you spend a big chunk of your life. It changes you.

0:33.6

And so great writing and great culture in general is this deeply valuable thing.

0:41.0

And so now I was like, I should write. How hard could it be? I would love that. I have ideas.

0:45.1

I know how to type. Like, I'm a programmer. I love reading. And I started writing what I thought

0:50.8

was going to be an essay or a blog post or a screed of some sort, like

0:56.8

detailing my frustrations with the media economy on the internet.

1:01.2

Kind of just complaining in broad strokes, look, the internet came along, smashed a lot of the

1:06.0

business models that used to sustain culture and hasn't really, I mean, it's created a lot of wonderful things.

1:12.9

There's been a lot of promise, but it hasn't yet replaced, especially like the economic

1:18.5

engines that made those things go in a way that was satisfactory to me.

1:24.7

Yeah.

1:25.1

And I was just kind of whining.

1:26.8

I was going off and saying, well, wow, you know, your Craigslist killed the classifieds, and, you know, maybe Facebook is not an unalloyed good. And I sent it to my friend Hamish, who's actually a writer. And he let me down very gently. He's like, these are all good points you make, but it's 2017 and you are not quite as

1:46.5

original as you think you are.

1:47.5

Other people may have noticed that some of these trends are going on, but he's like,

1:53.7

here's how you could make this essay you're writing better, because you should add a section

1:58.2

that just says, so what do you do about it? How could this be different?

2:01.7

It's easy to complain. It's easy to say, here's everything that's wrong. It's much more

2:06.9

interesting, though. It would be more interesting as a reader to have a theory of, well, what could a new

2:12.2

and better thing be? And we started arguing, basically. And that argument turned into what became the core idea for

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